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Fri, 08/23/2019 - 08:25
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Latent spline/piecewise regression model on cross sectional data
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Hello,

For my research, I would like to estimate the association between two latent variables using a spline/piecewise regression model with a single knot. The model should estimate two separate linear regression lines and the knot location (see attached image).
The two latent variables are anxiety and negative affectivity and both are measured with 7 indicators on a 1-5 Likert Scale.

On this forum, I read some topics about spline models in a growth model context, but I do not know whether such models can easily be transformed to spline models suitable for estimating associations between two latent variables using cross-sectional data.

I found an article by Jeffrey Harring (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0013164413504295) that explains the mathematics of estimating such a model.

Is it possible to program this model in OpenMx?

Best wishes,
Paul

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Sun, 08/25/2019 - 02:03
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Yes I think so

Possibly via bivariate normal integration over the two latent variables. I think you may need a user-defined fit function. The sign function may help. It is an interesting problem - will try to look at the paper too. Some ‘case’ { style functionality seems needed more generally.

Cheers
Mike

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Fri, 08/30/2019 - 11:24
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Thanks!

Thanks Mike! Good to know it is probably possible to estimate this model in Openmx.

I have no experience in specifying my own fit functions. Does this mean that I have to write an R function to compute the likelihood according to equations 16 and 17 in the paper?

I am also unsure how to add the non-linear regression parameters (e.g. knot location, two separate regression coefficients for the association between the two latent variables; see equation 4) to my model using either the mxMatrix or mxPath notation.

I greatly appreciate any help with these issues.

Best wishes,
Paul

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Mon, 09/09/2019 - 18:37
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MxFitFunctionR or MxFitFunctionAlgebra
I have no experience in specifying my own fit functions. Does this mean that I have to write an R function to compute the likelihood according to equations 16 and 17 in the paper?

You could write an arbitrary R function to evaluate the likelihood, and put an MxFitFunctionR into your MxModel. Alternately, if it's possible to express that function as an MxAlgebra, then you could do that, and use an MxFitFunctionAlgebra. The latter will be faster, but MxAlgebras aren't as general as R.

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Fri, 12/06/2019 - 12:20
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suggestion

A biostatistics student I work with has a preprint out that might be useful to you. You could try contacting her for her R syntax.

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Mon, 03/02/2020 - 11:05
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Please ignore my previous comment

I removed the "." in the preprint URL and now it works. Thanks again!

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Mon, 03/02/2020 - 11:47
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Glad to hear. Sorry for the

Glad to hear. Sorry for the broken URL.

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Sun, 03/29/2020 - 20:07
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A quick question

Dr. Kirk,

My code cannot work on his project directly. But I think it is possible to address the linear-linear piecewise relationship between latent variables in OpenMx. Suppose he wants to estimate the knot of one latent variable "depression" and the relationship between two latent variables "depression" and "negative". We then need to use mxMatrix() to create an extra parameter for it. Then we need two mxAlgebra()'s to express "depression - knot" and "abs(depression - knot)" as the attached formula; then mxPath() to specify the path from "first" and "second" to "depression". I am not sure about the lines starting with "?". Do you have any advice on them? Thanks in advance.

bilinearSER <- mxModel("Linear linear Piecewise SER", type = "RAM",
                       manifestVars = manifests,
                       latentVars = c("negative", "depression"),
                       ## Latent and residual variances
                       mxPath(from = "negative", arrows = 2, free = T, values = 1, labels = "varNegative"),
                       mxPath(from = "depression", arrows = 2, free = T, values = 1, labels = "varDepression"),
                       mxPath(from = manifests[1:7], arrows = 2, free = T, values = 1, 
                              labels = paste0("negative error", 1:7)),
                       mxPath(from = manifests[8:16], arrows = 2, free = T, values = 1, 
                              labels = paste0("depression error", 1:9)),
                       mxPath(from = "negative", to = manifests[1:7], arrows = 1, free = c(F, rep(T, 6)),
                              values = 1, labels = c("labelNegative", 1:7)),
                       mxPath(from = "depression", to = manifests[8:16], arrows = 1, free = c(F, rep(T, 8)),
                              values = 1, labels = c("labelDepression", 1:9)),
                       mxMatrix("Full", 1, 1, free = T, values = 10, 
                                labels = "knot", name = "knot"),
                       ?mxAlgebra(depression - knot, name = "first"),
                       ?mxAlgebra(abs(depression - knot), name = "second"),
                       ?mxPath(from = "negative", to = , free = T, labels = "first[1,1]"),
                       ?mxPath(from = "negative", to = , free = T, labels = "second[1,1]"),
                       mxData(dat, type = "raw")
                       )
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Mon, 03/02/2020 - 10:36
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Great!

Thanks for letting me know! The link to the preprint does no longer work (likely due to my extremely delayed response). Could you please send me a new link, or her contact info?

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